Driver says sorry after SMIDSY crash apology
Maddi's photo of Andrew's bike

Driver sends Facebook apology after crash

A driver who “t-boned” a rider in a SMIDSY (Sorry Mate I didn’t See You) crash has sent an apology via a personal Facebook message.

The crash happened on 5 December 2019 when Andrew Anson, 32, of Narooma, NSW, was riding his 2009 Hyosung 250GTR down a hill behind a 4WD which was turning left.

Driver says sorry after SMIDSY crash
Andrew before the crash

“I slowed down and as I was going around the 4WD, this car came out of nowhere and t-boned me straight in the middle,” he says.

Later that same day, driver Maddi Hunter sent her “sincerest apologies” in a personal Facebook message:

Words cannot describe how terrible I feel. This was the first accident I’ve ever been in and it happens to be one of the worst things that can happen.

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Maddi Hunter (Facebook image)

Andrew says her apology won’t help save his foot which he could lose.

“Apologies will not help or change the situation,” he says.

“I would expect her to stop and wait if a car is turning; wait until the car is out of sight, then proceed. Look out for motorcycles. Don’t just dart out.”

SMIDSY scenario

The exact scenario of this crash is depicted in a Western Australia perception test for learner riders where a turning vehicle masks a smaller motorcyclist from the view of a driver waiting at an intersection.

Hazard perception test

Andrew, who has been riding about seven months, says he has never had an accident and is a “very careful rider and I don’t speed”.

“All I remember is that car coming out of nowhere, then putting my hand out and hitting the bonnet. I don’t even remember hitting the road,” he says.

“Witnesses tell me I ricocheted into an oncoming vehicle as well.

“The next thing I know I’m on the ground screaming in agony.”

Andrew suffered multiple wrist, rib and leg brakes, but the worst was a shattered ankle where the vehicle hit him.

“It was shattered like a tomato,” he says.

“One of the arteries was severed and I almost lost my foot. I could still lose it.”

Andrew has already had three operations with another scheduled on Monday and “a fair few” to follow.

FB apology

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Portion of the personal Facebook message supplied by Andrew

When Maddi left her apology for Andrew, he was advised not to reply, but to wait for the police to contact him.

He says the officer involved is on leave and won’t be back until next week.

Andrew has not yet made a police statement and no charges have been laid.

Maddi told us she didn’t see Andrew’s bike passing the turning vehicle until she “started to pull out”.

“From where I was I could see up the rest of the hill and as far as I could see there was nothing behind him,” she says.

“From my view there was nothing either way so I turned out and as I turned there he was.

“I didn’t see him until I hit him.”

In the text message she says she noticed Andrew swerve.

“I slammed on my breaks (sic) but I believe I hit the back end of your bike with the left side of the car,” she texted.

In her apology, Maddi says she tried to call 000, but a witness had already called, so she waited until Andrew was taken away in an ambulance:

I took photos of your bike to show you and also allowed another lady on the scene to call your grandmother off my phone to notify her about the accident. I was told to go home and call the police to report the incident by both the paramedics and also the fire fighters. I proceeded to do this and was at the station giving my statement at 4.50pm.

Driver says sorry after SMIDSY crash
Maddi’s photo of Andrew’s bike (and top of the page)

I was driving my mother’s car so I’ll be asking her to contact the insurance company to help assist with damages tomorrow. If there is any other way that I can help you personally I am more than happy to within my capabilities. I am so so sorry! Literally have been worried all afternoon and night as I wasn’t sure what the injuries entailed. I hope you have a fast recovery and once again I’m so sorry. The last thing I’d want to do is ever hurt someone and especially around this time of year.

‘I will ride again’

“Sorry is not going to help,” Andrew says.

“She should have looked and stopped and waited.

“She’s just assumed there was nothing behind the 4WD.

“She says she saw the car coming down the hill but nothing behind it.

“But I didn’t see her and I normally scan for everything.

“I also have a loud muffler so she should have heard me coming.”

Andrew says he would like Maddi to fix or replace his bike.

“I will ride again,” he says.

“There is no way this will stop me getting on a bike.”

  1. I’m trying to picture this in a logical way. From this information above, “Maddi told us she didn’t see Andrew’s bike passing the turning vehicle until she “started to pull out”.
    “From where I was I could see up the rest of the hill and as far as I could see there was nothing behind him,” she says.
    “From my view there was nothing either way so I turned out and as I turned there he was.
    “I didn’t see him until I hit him.”

    With those details in mind, I can only assume Andrew was in the 4WD’s blind spot off to the side as he was preparing to pass.. If, this is indeed Andrew’s position then that would make sense why Andrew didn’t see Maddie or Vise Versa. Maddie, in no way could have seen Andrew’s advance as he was hidden by being tucked in on the 4WD. No wonder there wasn’t anything Maddie could have done. If the required following distance between Andrew and the 4WD and wasn’t adhered to then how could Maddie be expected to have seen him to start with as she checked if she was clear to proceed?

    I wish Andrew a speedy recovery and pray he doesn’t lose his foot.

    I also wish Maddie my best towards her own recovery as emotional wounds are very hard to heal.

    1. you are 100% correct in how you saw it is how it was, also Andrew leaning over his tank would have made him lower when he was beside the 4wd.

      the intersection he had the acco is a black spot due to the design of the road, 5 feet beside that road is another road that runs along side it.

      so if maddi looked left then right she would not of seen Andrew he would have been in the shadow of the 4wd. also she coould have thort that Andrew could have turned right as it was a cross road

      look on google and yo to sat view and look at the intersection

      Canty street, Princess hwy and Montague street , the 4wd was turning left into Canty andrew was heading north

      https://www.google.com/maps/@-36.2193402,150.1323753,3a,75y,82.87h,64.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYfpzptX-Dop6Rv_mGZLc5g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

  2. I don’t know either party involved, and I have no more information about the accident than what is presented in this article.
    I believe she has gone above and beyond what is legally required and reached out personally in an effort to minimise the fallout for the rider.
    He is upset (completely understandable) but is acting like bit of a douche.
    Yes, in a perfect world she would have waited or seen him. BUT, he also should have help back a little. If he couldn’t see her pulling out because of the vehicle in front of him, how does he expect her to see him?
    I have only had one accident where my bike connected with another vehicle. My bike war totalled and I was hospitalised. The other driver lied to his insurance in an effort to avoid his responsibilities (didn’t work).
    I have had an “accident” where a car has reversed into my parked bike. The driver searched for me, found me, drove me to the bike shop to replace the parts that were stopping me from riding the bike home, and didn’t hesitate to pay to fix all damage to my bike. AND she was visibly upset that she had knocked my bike over and caused me inconvenience.
    Mistakes happen. Everyone makes them. If someone is genuinely sorry and is likely to learn from the mistake, be glad that noone died and there is probably one driver that will now be much more careful.

    I hope he makes a full recovery and gets back on a bike soon.

  3. I’ve been riding for near on 50 years and the scenario as described here makes me a little anxious every time. To try to prevent a crash I pull to the left or right of the turning vehicle in front (depending on left or right turn) with the thought that the stationary vehicle would have seen my headlight behind the turning vehicle. If in doubt I slow and try to move as far away from the stationary vehicle as possible and change down a gear in case I need to accelerate out of danger.

    I believe this girl needs to be cut a bit of slack. Sure, she did the wrong thing. Sure, sorry doesn’t help a lot but at least she is sorry and has taken ownership of what she has done. Her consequences are going to be magnified due to the fact she has admitted guilt. Her insurance company won’t be happy and they will probably penalise her.

    If this had happened to me I wouldn’t be happy and so the rider has my sympathy. All this taking sides and slagging one another is unedifying. Anyone who rides has to accept the reality that when we ride and are involved in an INCIDENT – I don’t call them accidents – it doesn’t matter much if we are in the right – it’s a miracle if we don’t come off second best. Maybe the exhilaration of danger is a part of the allure of motorcycling. Whatever, there is no use dwelling on what has been done. The focus now needs to be making the best of the bad situation. I wish the rider well.

  4. Cheri Nunn

    I wish Andrew didnt make this personal like he has, no need for the girls name to be published or a photo, or the Private message she sent him, he isnt a victim of a crime.

    you have no idea its not andrews first accident like he says, go look at his first bike, still in the garage.

    we live in small towns villages and word gets around fast, now if this gets out that his posted he will be treated like a leaper for ever down here, and so will the rest of the family. just so he can get some fame on the internet.

    he should put his other shoe in his gob and shut up and get on getting well again. and let the legal system get on with prosesing his clam.

    there was no need to have the stuff posted on so im a victim web site like this, the girls name and photo should not have been posted, BAD form on motorbikewriter.com . (

    1. Hi Bill,
      A friend of Andrew’s asked me to contact him for an article.
      Andrew was very forthcoming as was Maddi.
      I believe riders and drivers can only benefit from analysing this situation to see how they can avoid a similar result.
      Cheers,
      Mark

  5. Yes, it’s unfortunate she hit the bike, however she did everything required afterwards and is sincerely sorry. I’ve been knocked over a few times I my life and never received an apology like this one.

  6. Cheri from B4BD-AU

    Andrew isn’t a natural rider as such, he thinks jumping on a bike and riding is easy, i used to ride meany years ago.

    I told Andrew before he got this 2nd bike, that he needs to go and learn how to ride the right way, he always ignores good advice, in rural areas they don’t have like they have in Sydney upright riders course.

    Also just having his helmet and gloves wasn’t enough safety gear, sand shoes and a pretty leather vest will not help him .

    1. Bill, I understand this is coming from a place of concern, moving forward we may be able to get Andrew to enrol in a Rider Training school, one of our volunteers on B4BD-AU is an instructor, right now we need Andrew to concentrate on his recovery, he has a long road ahead & can face anything else once he has recovered.
      We also have a range of counselors Bill, if you need to speak to anyone, these accidents don’t just affect the rider, the family suffers too, I do speak from experience, & from that experience, I’m pretty sure what Andrew needs right now, is support.

  7. Hi, Cheri from B4BD-AU here … Andrew will get through this … accidents do change your life in a split second …we all have that feeling after an accident … we are trying to keep his spirits up while he is in recovery with visits from our volunteers in Canberra who are willing to spend time with him …as well as giving him access to our legal people & counselors on board …but sometimes it’s hard not to feel animosity towards the driver of the other vehicle involved … here’s hoping Andrew recovers quickly & without complication

  8. Too many young people are assuming that they can judge distance and speed of other vehicles and literally pulling into oncoming traffic this happens to me on a daily basis when I’m in my car or on my bike
    There is no reason why you need to pull out in the road so fast that you can not see everything
    The only thing that you are getting to quick is a crash

  9. Andrew Needs to understand it was a accident, and it was not a personal one Maddii didnt mean to hit Andrew, that part Andrew needs to get over, i feel for Maddi, she has a heart and felt very bad and texted Andrew after i put a post of thank you to the staff at the pub that looked after Andrews bike.

    Andrew needs to understand he was lucky he got a heart felt apology, and i have read the Facebook message in full from Maddi.

    Andrew needs to understand people make mistakes, and i know he has made his fare share.

    Regards
    Bill Anson lol yes Andrews father.

    1. Hi Bill,
      I need to let you know, the part of B4BD-AU in this with Andrew, is merely to help he & the family get through a traumatic time, you, as his Dad, of course, knows Andrew far better than we do, however, I as the CoOrdinator for this network, will not be drawn into family issues, as they are exactly that, family issues, we will support Andrew as much as he needs our support, with visitors, counseling, or legal advice, we are just keeping his spirits up because regardless of any one’s opinion, a major injury from an accident does change your life in a heartbeat , Bill I speak from experience. I wish all involved a speedy recovery without complication, I say this because an accident like this affects many, many more than just the injured party.

  10. Yes, she should have waited for the 4WD to turn in before moving out. But what if she had been a young kid on a bike who pulled out? Or an old lady on foot? The motorcycle would have cleaned ’em up big time. The rider says “she just assumed there was nothing behind the 4WD”. Yes, but he also assumed that there was nothing in front of it. Never swing around a turning car in these situations. Hang back or, if you must go around, go WIDE so you get maximum view of anything there. If you can’t go wide for safety reasons, hang back. No use being “in the right” from a hospital bed. It’s a bit disturbing that this rider doesn’t seem to have learned anything and continues to just blame the girl.

    1. 100% with you. She shouldn’t have pulled out whilst making an assumption that there was nothing behind the 4wd, BUT, experienced riders may just well slow down behind the 4wd as they could also make the assumption (correct in this situation) that another vehicle was in the side street that the 4WD was turning into, and that vehicle may not have had a good look to see if there was anyone behind the 4WD before they pulled out. I’ve avoided the exact same situation a number of times, simply be being aware that they probably won’t have a good look and see me even though I was there, so simply slowing down usually gives you more time to avoid them if they pull out. Also, be aware that sometimes if you do slow down in that situation, the driver may also assume that you are turning and pull out anyway, so it pays to be very vigilant and expect them to do something un-expected, as so often they do.

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